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Provo Booting: Parking Enforcement or Moral Police?

[A note from Mason: Please be aware that this article was submitted by a reader--tyler durden in this particular case--and doesn't represent my stand on the booting issue. I just don't want all of you Daily Universe readers getting confused. For more on my personal take on booting see this story.]

After reading an opinion editorial on the Daily Universe and writing a subsequent letter to the editor (which I felt was much better than 2/3 the stupidity they print), I came across an idea that i wanted to toss around.

Most justifications of the oppressive booting policies embraced by Provo apartments attempt to defend the booters by stating that 'they are doing us a favor.' Are they really doing any of us a favor? I say no. For the most part, booting is not a matter of parking enforcement, but is rather another method utilized by BYU-approved apartments to enforce the Honor Code. In other words, Provo booters are not parking enforcers, they are moral police.

My experience with booters come primarily from two apartment complexes: Crestwood and Raintree (where I unfortunately still live).The parking at Crestwood is wonderful. Because of the great parking space to resident ratio, there were always parking spaces available not too far away my apartment. Raintree is the total opposite. While there are enough parking spaces for all of the residents (and some), most of these are on the complete opposite side of the complex, several minutes away from my apartment. This extra parking lot is long, dark, and prone to theft. (My brother had his rear window smashed and his stereo stolen in this lot).

While the parking situations are drastically different, they both back up my opinion that booters are not used to enforce parking, but are used to enforce the Honor Code. At Crestwood, there is no need for parking enforcement; especially in the summer. Nobody cares about a non-Crestwood guest using up a parking space, we'll just park in the space next to them. At Raintree, parking is terrible by 8pm and gets no different as the night goes on. Unless, you are lucky and come upon somebody leaving their spot, you are pretty much screwed and have to park out in the boonies. Yet, 'parking enforcement' does not begin until 12am - when most of the tenants have already parked and no extra spaces are needed!

As we see, at Crestwood, parking enforcement is not needed, but booting occurs. At Raintree, parking enforcement may be needed, but not when it occurs. What do they both have in common? For both apartment complexes (as is the case with many complexes in Provo), parking enforcement begins at the same time the Honor Code states that guests of the opposite sex must be out of apartments. It seems pretty clear why these complexes have booting policies.

Though I disagree with many of the pharisaic aspects of the Honor Code, I made the mistake of moving into another BYU-approved complex and promised to obey it. I can't then complain about having to live the Honor Code. However, should I be financially punished for a system implemented to police the Honor Code? I say no.

Interesting point Tyler, I'll

Interesting point Tyler, I'll have to let this stew awhile.

absolutely true

Tyler,
You are right on the money, but I had never thought about that aspect before. I have always assumed booters were motivated only by the financial aspect. It annoys me that booters don't do a thing to help the parking problem. I wish they WOULD tow violators. It would prove that they are actually enforcing parking, rather than doing a couple of minutes of work for an easy payment.

There is a meeting tonight; the Provo city council is considering a mandatory $500 fee assessed to booters who wrongfully disable or tow a vehicle in addition to the costs of the victim. I hope all of us can attend (I, unfortunately, can't.)

BYU booting and stickin' it to the man

Unfortunately this is the answer to all booting in Provo, but my roommates and I have have adopted the following approach. For every ticket/boot/tow that we recieve from BYU is one year that we will not contribute back to the university.

The way I see it, the University should treat its students better if they expect future donataions. I don't mean just with parking, however. For instance, I feel that I got screwed over this my last semester and had to take an independent study class for the cost of $230. I figure I will recoup those losses by not donating by that amount in the future.

re: BYU booting

Eh... maybe I'M in the minority here, but I didn't really think we were talking about BYU parking enforcement. They are pretty fair about it. I believe most of this discussion is regarding private booting companies in the Provo vicinity. Anyone care to second me on that?

footage?

I have no idea. It can't hurt to bring a camera and find out.

I think if booting is the tec

I think if booting is the technique private owners want to use, they should ensure that BYU parking enforcement puts up signs in the parking area that clearly state parking rules.
I was booted this past summer when staying overnight at a friend's house in Provo. According to the booter, she was supposed to be aware of the "no parking after 1:30" rule when signing her rental agreement. We looked at a copy of her rental agreement, and there was nothing mentioned. I never saw a sign that stated valid visitor parking hours until I got booted. There was one sign (not easily noticeable)off to the side of the drive leading into the lot that posted the visitor parking hours in relatively small type. However, the signs directly in front of my visitor parking stall said nothing about parking hours, which I think is deceptive. I think any reasonable person could reasonably conclude that all parking rules would be stated on the sign directly in front of their stall. Ridiculous!

Uh...

I didn't think BYU even booted. I thought they just did tickets. Anywho, do you think they'd let me get some footage of the meeting tonight for my documentary?

I 2nd it

I am not a BYU student, so I have not ahd to deal with BYU parking enforcement. If BYU parking enforcement is anything like UVSC's, then I would assume they are fair.

sorry

I've been awake since Monday 8:30am. I have to head to work in a few minutes and I don't get out until 10pm, so I even wouldn't be able to attend if I wasn't so blasted tired right now.