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Are the BYU Cheerleaders' uniforms immodest?

I sometimes hear people bring up the fact that our cheerleaders uniforms don't comply with the Honor Code, but I've never heard anyone debate about whether they should actually comply or not.

After reading today's Daily Universe article, what do you guys think?

Personally, I've got no problem with them. With all the flippin' and tumbling and what-not, it seems a little ridiculous to wear uniforms with sleeves and knee-length skirts.

it's confirmed

just more evidence that happy valley (especially byu) is stricken with pharacyticalism.

Immodest?

I just can't make up my mind. Perhaps if I had more pictures of girls from other universities in skimpy cheerleader outfits. Do you know where I can get some? Or maybe if we compared pictures of girls in cheerleader outfits to pictures of girls in lingerie. Can we do that? That might help.

what about all the other stuff?

What about swimmers, the cougarettes, volleyball, and runners? They all wear tight outfits or short shorts. Are we going to make them change as well?

I think they wear what they wear because it serves as functional clothing. Would it really be right to put the swim team in 1920's syle, full-baggy bathing suits, and expect them to compete? I don't think so.

We already have the most modest cheerleading uniforms I've ever seen. Except for Stanford, but their cheerleaders don't do any tumbling or stunts.

Cougarettes

I don't know if it is still the case, but when I was at BYU it was more the Ballroom Dance Team and then the Cougarettes that had the *really* immodest clothing. Cheerleaders were always a tad frumpy. (BTW - what is it about being a cheerleader in *college*? Isn't that just a little weird?)

Lets go back to sweaters

Even the USC girls are more modest than ours.

President Samuelson

I don't really have a problem with it.

Ironically, the president of BYU would not even watch the Cougarettes (sp?) during halftime of the Air Force game last Saturday. I was on the second row across from him and it was almost humorous as he awkwardly avoided watching 90% of their halftime presentation.

you sound like a catch!

laurence b,

your offhand remarks are very offensive. whether you are joking or not, they show disrespect to the byu cheerleaders and women in general.

I just can't make up my mind. Perhaps if I had more pictures of girls from other universities in skimpy cheerleader outfits. Do you know where I can get some? Or maybe if we compared pictures of girls in cheerleader outfits to pictures of girls in lingerie. Can we do that? That might help.
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this weighty matter can only be properly acheived once we have perused true-color, high-resolution photos of each young woman's soft, supple contours adorned in revealing outfits, in various seductive poses.

do you realize that you sound like a perverted 13-year-old? men in the church should know that women are daughters of God. when you talk about them in the above way it is demeaning and hurtful. it makes me so sad when guys take this matter so lightly. i feel sorry for the women you've dated; did you need to see full frontal nudity before you were able to make an educated decision to pursue them?

once again, you may have been joking, but as a girl, i'm not laughing.

--summer (too lazy to register)

eh im an lds woman

1, im too lazy to register just yet
2, im a married in the Temple lds woman and laughed my rear side off at most of these comments! When you begin to wear garments, you are told not to wear them when it is not appropriate (ie swimming)..i also doubt that too many football players wear theirs on feild...as a guidline the honor code is based off of the general lines that garments provide us with...so basically, cheerleading, not something i would wear my garments to do..thus i think the uniforms are fine...they aren't ultra sluty, and they are condusive to the sport. no need to pull a heil hitler just cause you can see a knee, or collar bone..and the ballroom dancing incedent, yes well the dancing can be done with out obscene cleavage, or all of your upper thigh hanging out, totaly different than having the cheerleaders wear wool socks, sweaters, and full skirts, --no so condusive...rock on cheerleaders...

cheerleaders

I was at one of cougargames and up close to see the cheerleaders and one of them farted as they came landing down and everyone in the front row laughed really loud

the last comment was from me

the last comment was from me
Lisa

This is sad

I happen to be just looking up something on the BYU website and found these choice comments. I am saddened that your idea of humor is at the expense of this school. I would suggest you go to another chat room format to make your immature comments so that it does not reflect on a school that is trying to hold on to a reputation for the rest of the world.I realize that many students that go to BYU have no clue about the LDS church, nor want to or perhaps even received admission under false pretenses, but if you knew how many really good young people are denied access to this level of education through no fault of their own, or lack of funds, you would not abuse the priviledge you all have of attending this fine school. Even in jest, anyone posting on this website should refrain from putting comments that would essentially reflect a demeaning example of a typical LDS person. Shame on you. Go back and read your comments through the eyes of an investigator and think about it. Have you all lived in the shelter of Utah too long? Are you taking this educational opportunity for granted? I am aware you thought you were just joking and clowning around and even trying to "top" each other with comments, but you do not know who will have access to this in the WWWeb...be careful. Joking about clothing that are held sacred etc. is not humorous to many of us. I would just warn you to be more careful of anything you post on the internet or any website.

Oh my freakin' heck!

I can't believe that people are actually offended by the BYU cheerleaders' outfits. The BYU cheerleaders are the epitome of pulchritude. If you're offended by the BYU cheerleaders' outfits then I have a suggestion for you: Don't go to any athletic events. I think I'll file this one under the "Only in Happy Valley" category.

Lisa is right

Lisa is so right about that new team photo "silly girls"! I just saw it, they are so unclassy! Hey Cadybell why dont you grow up!! Lisa is right about that picture. They are so immodest and unlike previous cheerleaders who looked elegant

Grumpy

I think cadybell is grumpy, perhaps if you released the gas your holding you'd be nicer, just my opinion

New pictures

Have you seen the new squad pics on their website? They have one pic called "silly girls" where they look like they are ready to put out? They are acting all sexy and everything. By theway when I saw the cheerleader who farted landing down at a game, she looked like she was going to cry. that made me laugh since they think they are hot wearing those short miniskirts. Something like that needs to happen to them to put them in their place

wow

...is this really an issue?
Doesn't it just make more sense to do away with that stupid part of the 'honor code' that says skirts have to be knee length?!?!?

where can i get some?

where can i get some? i need several pictures of byu cheerleaders in skimpy outfits to make a decision on this matter ;)

That's obvious...

LaurenceB:

this weighty matter can only be properly acheived once we have perused true-color, high-resolution photos of each young woman's soft, supple contours adorned in revealing outfits, in various seductive poses.

Summer:

do you realize that you sound like a perverted 13-year-old?

Yeah...that's obvious.

But now that I think about it...

A quick perusal of LaurenceB's other comments, which seem to drop like monkey turds from a jungle canopy, could easily convince many first-time visitors that he is in fact a 13-year-old.

Hmmmm...

Wow. Sorry.

Sorry Summer. I truly didn't think it was that offensive. I'll shut up now.

Once again - sorry if I offended.

uhhh....

I hope that wasn't my wife.

error...

I guess it was USC's cheerleaders and not stanford. whoops.

Rock off, cheerleaders.

I think the women do not believe the Lord. Otherwise, they would all wear burkas like our sisters in the middle east. I mean really, would a worthy member really want to see scantly clad young women? I would rather die first.

"no need to pull a heil hitle

"no need to pull a heil hitler just cause you ..."

Oh my goodness ... that's the funniest expression I've heard in a long time.

Have you seen the USC cheerleaders

Have you even seen the USC girl do anything remotely difficult? No, They don't even go off the ground. Of course they have sweater uniforms, they've never done a back-flip in their life. The only people at USC that put one person on top of another are the USC yell-leaders with each other, and I don't want to even start on them.
Also USC's squad does not compete at national, or regional for that matter, competitions. BYU was #1 in the national last year and just won 2nd place last year (USA nationals.) So yeah, if the BYU cheerleaders didn't do anything that required talent then see picture above for future uniforms.
And let's compare them to another competative squad, the U of U.... Hm... no brainer there I've seen more skin coverage on a string bikinni.

This is funny

  1. Since when does everybody who lives in Provo go to BYU?
  2. How is talking about cheerleaders reflecting a demeaning example of a typical LDS person?
  3. How does talking about the amount of clothing a cheerleader wears reflect badly on a BYU student?
  4. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

  5. Do you realize it is fools like you who give BYU a bad name?

I am now done pontificating.

hmm

I'm astonished at how many closed-minded people are out in this world. Yeah, I was pretty shocked that the girls bent their knee in the picture too...shocker...
It kind of makes me mad when people stereotype others, because (and I'm just guessing here) we should know better as LDS members. Perhaps many of the attackers on this site are from areas that don't have many non-members, and haven't experienced anything outside of the bubble...including the views of the other side of the world (i.e. New York, Chicago, etc.) Long story short, it sounds like you're jealous when you make fun of a girl who may "think they are hot wearing those short miniskirts." The next time you tumble I beg of you to wear a ankle-length skirt.
I have never been a cheerleader but at least I can still look up to their hardwork and determination. And "to put them in their place" I should add that they are amazing athletes who deserve to feel good about themselves. I may be alone on this, but I think people in general should be content with who they are.

What is PHARACYTICALISM?

What is PHARACYTICALISM? I couldn't find it in the dictionary- Did you create a word?
Danny

Amen, sister

"Joking about clothing that are held sacred etc. is not humorous to many of us. I would just warn you to be more careful of anything you post on the internet or any website."

I have sinned. I have a free spirit and I did laugh at the cheerleader who farted upon her decent. Forgive me, my religious zealout friend.

sense of humor much?

to anonymous

You sound really uptight, that's sad

modesty is important, and the cheerleader outfits are not modest, they are not following the standerds that the rest of the campus is required to follow, they mostly tend to use the excuse that they need to do the moves, ya whatever...

why can't the byu modesty police go bother them for a change

Garments

I'm not sure how appropriate it is to draw attention to your Garments in the first place, but as you already did here's what the Church has had to say about the subject:
“The fundamental principle ought to be to wear the garment and not to find occasions to remove it. Thus, members should not remove either all or part of the garment to work in the yard or to lounge around the home in swimwear or immodest clothing. Nor should they remove it to participate in recreational activities that can reasonably be done with the garment worn properly beneath regular clothing. When the garment must be removed, such as for swimming, it should be restored as soon as possible."

source

(yeah it's long but if you copy and paste it you'll get the full talk)

Rexburg