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A Credit Score You've Earned

Here is an article my Father-in-law sent me that relates to a previous article on this site talking about “credit renting:”

A Credit Score You’ve Earned
By Michelle Singletary
Thursday, July 12, 2007

A pending change to a popular credit scoring system is about to make it much harder for people to polish their credit by riding the coattails of someone else’s good payment record.

Fair Isaac, the creator of the widely used FICO credit scoring formula, is adjusting its scoring method to fight a growing trend known as piggybacking.

Piggybacking involves letting another person become an authorized user on your credit card account. As an authorized user, that person immediately inherits the payment history of the account. People seeking to boost their credit ratings typically hitch themselves to folks with histories of paying their cards on time and keeping their balances low, all of which maximizes their credit scores.

In the past, this arrangement has been between family members or friends. Parents are often advised to do it for their college-age or young adult children (a move I highly discourage).

In recent years, a growing number of companies have begun selling authorized user services. These so called credit-repair companies, which advertise heavily on the Internet, promise that people can push up their scores by 200 points or more. FICO scoring ranges from a low of 300 to a high of 850, and the higher your score, the better the loan terms and rates you can get.

Brokers selling this service also promise that authorized users won’t get the credit card number or information that could allow them to use the credit card. However, if the information is included on a person’s credit report, which is the whole point of this transaction, it’s possible to find a way to use the card.

Users of a commercial piggyback service might pay $1,000 or more depending on the quality of the accounts. Account holders who let others be added to their accounts may earn a few hundred dollars per piggyback client. The middleman collects the difference.

There’s a problem with this service: It allows people who have no relationship with the primary cardholder to embellish their credit histories, making it possible for them to get loans for which they would otherwise not qualify.

“This is clearly loan fraud,” said Craig Watts, the public affairs manager for Fair Isaac.
Piggybacking has become a major concern to lenders and banking regulators, who are already dealing with historically high mortgage loan delinquencies and foreclosures. The damage could get worse if they approve borrowers whose creditworthiness is an illusion.

By September, Fair Isaac will begin rolling out its new scoring model, called FICO 08. Watts said consumers relying mostly on the credit history of another cardholder could see their scores drop if the new scoring model is used. Fair Isaac estimates 25 to 30 percent of credit reports have at least one account on which that consumer is an authorized user. Watts said 1 percent of consumers will not be able to be scored at all if the authorized user’s information is removed from the calculation of their FICO score.

“While FICO’s move has largely remained under consumers’ radar screen, its impact will be clearly felt when the change starts taking place in September, particularly among newly divorced women and a fresh crop of college students who will face a new hurdle in establishing credit for the first time,” says John Ulzheimer, a former FICO manager and current president of educational services.

No question, piggybacking has helped some consumers. But borrowing someone else’s good credit history doesn’t always have a happy ending.

I’ve heard my share of horror stories from people who allowed a relative or friend to become an authorized user only to be left with major debt. Or the authorized user, who was responsible for paying the bill, didn’t make payments on time, thus ruining the primary cardholder’s good credit name.

Being an authorized user doesn’t give someone a chance to demonstrate that he or she can actually use credit wisely. In fact, that’s why in creating their own credit scoring system, VantageScore, the three major credit bureaus didn’t included authorized users in calculating a person’s creditworthiness, according to Lisa Zarikian, who leads Equifax Predictive Sciences and was a member of the team that created the scoring system.

Although Fair Isaac is updating its scoring model, piggybacking will continue for now because not all lenders will immediately change over to the updated FICO version.

I understand the desire to want to help someone qualify for credit or get the best loan deal. But that person’s inability to qualify for credit could be a good thing. Just because someone wants credit doesn’t mean the person can afford it. That’s why the individual didn’t qualify in the first place. Maybe he or she isn’t ready for the responsibility.

And consider this: If you never meant to allow an authorized user to use your card, you’re complicit in helping someone misrepresent themselves as creditworthy. Bottom line: This is unethical, whether it’s being done by somebody’s mama, daddy, friend or stranger.

good point

I dont' know if this is good news or bad.

I'm an authorized user on one of my parents credit cards that they have had for 15 years. It has a HUGE credit limit, and I think has only boosted my credit. I actually became an authorized user when I needed to use the card this one time to make a huge purchase (I paid them back a month later).

maybe there are more things they should work out here?

Spammer Alert

Can you delete the previous comment which is obviously an attemt to spam (and peddle viagra type products)? Thanks in advance.

Movie Content Review using LDS standards (BLOG) (SITE)

got it

brentraymond - yeah I picked it off. Periodically these guys make it through. I do my best to keep them away but drupal (the system that powers this site) is not as "spam proof" as other systems like blogger and wordpress might be. Many times I just have to come in and delete new users that are really spammers.

if you look on the left side bar under "last viewed" many times you'll see some bad posting that made it through the cracks months before I purchased this site. There is actually close to a thousand "spam postings" locked away in the database. The only way to delete them is one by one, otherwise I'd have to re-set the entire site (something I don't want to do at all) to get rid of them. So I've just be deleting that crap one at a time. You can only do some much of that before your fingers hurt from doing the same thing over and over again.

One day the database will be all cleaned up. Until then I try and keep up with the "new" stuff to make sure it doesn't last.

Annoying spammers

Jeff, I think I might be able to understand what you mean about the annoying spammers. I frequently have to go through the housing database and delete spam and stuff. In fact one time someone posted a housing comment about how they wanted to kill their apartment manager. The apartment manager called me and brought it to my attention. Wow, that was uncomfortable.

Anyways, keep getting rid of those spammers. Good luck!


almost no way to win

Yeah these guys really need to find a better way to make money. I'm usually able to stop the 'spammer bots' or whatever they are called. But an actual person who has nothing else productive to do, can usually easily make it through.

I'll keep fighting them, and looking for more 'anti-spammer' code to add to the site which helps to make it more difficult for spammers to post to a site.